Need help with Pmk ethyl glycidate to MDMA synthesis

[strangerdanger]

Hi there everybody

Now that sas oil is more difficult to get your hands on, pmk the next best thing.

Curious to know if anybody has a synthesis they have been working with for cas: 28578-16-7

I was able to convert this wax to the oil form which yielded 90% by using hcl, acid 37% and distilled water spinning for 3 hours. however I am unable to proceed further as I only have a synthesis from sas to mdma

It would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Love4mdma

Love4mdma
Damn 90% yield is solid. I yielded 62% using 1:1 dh2o, add 10% naoh until ph 8, after 1 hour add conc hcl until co2 evoluton ceases then held at 75c for 3 hours.

What were the ratios of h2o and hcl did you use? Im wondering if my supplier sucks or my recipe is bad. I was able to get 75% using the old pmk glyc using the above recipe

 

[strangerdanger]

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robinhood

Hello everyone,

I was asked by a friend a couple months ago to try and help him with his experiment of bypassing the precursor from his PMK wax. His goal was to turn it into PMK oil for MDMA synthesis. I was promised a percentage of the final product (MDMA moonrock) if i were able to assist him in discovering the method of turning the PMK wax to oil so he can continue production - he has a decent sized lab set up which was at a stand still because of the precursor.

He had a very vague and unclear instruction sheet that we were going to use as a guide to experiment the wax to oil conversion.

I knew that his instruction sheet was missing key details as soon as a read it but we felt confident about being able to solve the missing pieces.

After 2 failed experiments - we were able to succesfully convert the wax to PMK oil which he then used to start his MDMA production back up.

We started with 5KG wax and yielded 60% and ended with 3L of oil. He produced close to 3kg of MDMA with that oil and i never received my promised percentage and he stopped answering my calls.

I never wrote down the exact measurements of the supporting chems that we used during out experiments. He prepared all of the measurements which is what i am hoping to learn from this forum.

I have a very bad short term memory but i will do my best to share what i learned from that experiment.

From what i can remember, the method + chemicals + measurments we used were:

1) PMK wax - 5kg / 5 litres (we heated the solid wax to liquid form)
2) ethanol - ?
3) distilled water - ?
4) Hydrochloric Acid - ? (Dripped slowly - fast spin insided reactor vessel for 3 - 4 hours after hcl finished dripping)
5) DCM as solvent
6) transfered to rotary evap at 60° until dcm was all evaporated.

Result: 3L of PMK oil (nice aroma, light brownish-gold liquid)

I am hoping that someone can shed some light on my problem :

I would love to know what the exact measurements we used and any relevant information i might be forgetting that is required to succesfully repeat the method to convert PMK wax to PMK oil for mdma production.

Any and all knowledge and help on this matter is very much appreciated!

I apologise for such a long post - thank you for reading and i look forward to any replies.

the recipe you mentioned sounds very similar to this one....

glyc : dh2o : etoh at 1:1:1 ratios mixed for 1 hour, then hcl and reflux for 3 hours. Ive never tried that recipe myself so i dont know the yields

 

[chinacat]

however I am unable to proceed further as I only have a synthesis from sas to mdma

Love4mdmaSame synth. Skip a few steps.

 

[robinhood]

the recipe you mentioned sounds very similar to this one....

glyc : dh2o : etoh at 1:1:1 ratios mixed for 1 hour, then hcl and reflux for 3 hours. Ive never tried that recipe myself so i dont know the yields

strangerdangerAre you sure of ratios?

This definitely was the recipe we followed - i appreciate your response.

 

[strangerdanger]

Are you sure of ratios?

This definitely was the recipe we followed - i appreciate your response.

robinhoodive never tried it myself. im simply sharing a recipe that i think is similar to what youre asking for. Im sure there are other recipes using different ratios which is something youll have to figure out and see which one works best for you. I also shared my recipe that yielded 62% from the waxy solid which i think is simpler than the one using etoh. to each their own.

can you describe ur pmk? is it solid at room temp? color? dark brown light brown? i

 

[robinhood]

Thanks for sharing.

Yes its wax at room temp, i believe the color would be more on the lighter end of the color brown. It sort of looks like solidified honey.

 

[btcboss2022]

Hello,

I will receive a sample of CAS 285-16-7 and it's a yellowish liquid not wax:
View attachment 4026

So you test that ratios and it's worked?
glyc : dh2o : etoh at 1:1:1 ratios mixed for 1 hour, then hcl and reflux for 3 hours
What ratio of HCL?
Thanks

 

[robinhood]

ive never tried it myself. im simply sharing a recipe that i think is similar to what youre asking for. Im sure there are other recipes using different ratios which is something youll have to figure out and see which one works best for you. I also shared my recipe that yielded 62% from the waxy solid which i think is simpler than the one using etoh. to each their own.

can you describe ur pmk? is it solid at room temp? color? dark brown light brown? i

strangerdangerThis is the PMK wax i used. Im not sure if i succeeded on attaching a photo of the PMK wax i have. Its definitely light brown - golden color and is very much similiar to how solid, dry honey looks in a jar. The oil i yielded from the wax was a dark brown liquid. My yield 60%

 

[Gale]

is it ethanol used in the conversion or ethyl acetate?

 

[Unreacted Freebase]

is it ethanol used in the conversion or ethyl acetate?

Gale
ethanol

 

[Followme38]

Does anyone have luck with making good oil from this new pmk from china? Everybody is calling it a glycidate but its not anymore since china banned the ethyl glycidate last year, now they are selling a product what looks like a honey like substance when heated at 30 degrees celsius, and a cream white powder, the ethanol formula gives a dark honey like oil, it gets hard after it cools down. See video...hope anyone can shed on it and more info

 

[derick12sabreh]

Hello, i'm also new in this field. Can someone tell me the best way to get PMK poweder to Europe, and also production cost of MDMA? Thank you

 

[Followme38]

Powder or oil getting it is simple now cause the new pmk is not on any list so china sends it with ups at the moment, but its completly useless china does not share formula also, so conversion correctly first is key.

 

[derick12sabreh]

And what is good price for that? If someone will has also good tips about MDMA, here or PM, i will be grateful

 

[Followme38]

And what is good price for that? If someone will has also good tips about MDMA, here or PM, i will be grateful

derick12sabrehPrice in china is now 160 usd bulk 150 usd delivered, but there is no use for buying yet cause extraction formula not available, myself including trying to figure out now for a month or so.