Synthesis of Amphetamine from P2NP via SnCl2 and Zn

[mithyl2]

depending on where you are in the world you can buy reagent test kits.

google 'reagent test kits'.

and do you mean, is snorting a good way to test the product?

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

depending on where you are in the world you can buy reagent test kits.

google 'reagent test kits'.

and do you mean, is snorting a good way to test the product?

mithyl2Should the product be a/b extracted again after a/b extraction?

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

It's not amphetamine because you would have felt an effect from whatever it was that you snorted. Also amphetamine has a bitter taste I think.

You could do an A/B test and see if a layer of oil forms, but the reagent test is perhaps the best way overall. Where do you live in the world? Get a reagent test - you can buy them with cryptocurrency or card.

You could send it to 'energy control' in Spain for a gas chromatography test to get an exact analysis of what it is. You could also send it to the Welsh testing lab 'wedinos' for free, but they will only tell you what compound it is and not the exact composition of it, like the way 'energy control' do.

mithyl2When I prepare 38 hcl acid, do I cool it or add it directly?

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

When I prepare 38 hcl acid, do I cool it or add it directly?

TucoSalamanca.If I add the aqueous acid slowly, the solution still turns white.

 

[mithyl2]

When I prepare 38 hcl acid, do I cool it or add it directly?

TucoSalamanca.You add it to an already cooled amount of water (the method says: 'Place 150 ml of cold water and 4 ml 36% hydrochloric acid in a glass'). So yes, you add the hcl solution cool.

Have you tried any other method to synthesize amphetamine?

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

You add it to an already cooled amount of water (the method says: 'Place 150 ml of cold water and 4 ml 36% hydrochloric acid in a glass'). So yes, you add the hcl solution cool.

Have you tried any other method to synthesize amphetamine?

mithyl2I ask if there is cooling at room temperature

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

You add it to an already cooled amount of water (the method says: 'Place 150 ml of cold water and 4 ml 36% hydrochloric acid in a glass'). So yes, you add the hcl solution cool.

Have you tried any other method to synthesize amphetamine?

mithyl2how many minutes do you recommend to add because when I add the reaction solution turns white

 

[mithyl2]

how many minutes do you recommend to add because when I add the reaction solution turns white

TucoSalamanca.Yes I think I had the same thing happen - when I added the naoh solution after I added the hcl solution I got white precipitate, but this is apparently normal as per the guide.

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

Yes I think I had the same thing happen - when I added the naoh solution after I added the hcl solution I got white precipitate, but this is apparently normal as per the guide.

mithyl2I don't understand, I do the whole synthesis as it says, but the synthesis doesn't disappear, I always fail, I go crazy, I'm going to kill myself.

 

[TucoSalamanca.]

Yes I think I had the same thing happen - when I added the naoh solution after I added the hcl solution I got white precipitate, but this is apparently normal as per the guide.

mithyl2I lost 90gr p2np because of this synthesis

 

[mithyl2]

I lost 90gr p2np because of this synthesis

TucoSalamanca.Yes! This is exactly my situation too! I'm doing everything as described in the methods with this synthesis and others but none of them work

 

[wael gano]

I don't understand, I do the whole synthesis as it says, but the synthesis doesn't disappear, I always fail, I go crazy, I'm going to kill myself.

TucoSalamanca.You can re-extract the basic acid of this salt that you obtained
Dissolve this salt in cold water, the ratio of water to salt is 1/1
Add 25% sodium hydroxide solution dropwise to pH12
You will notice an oily layer on top
Add the DCM solvent, mix it well, then throw it into the separating funnel and separate the DCM layers. The bottom extract it and keep it
Make a solution of 1 ml sulfuric acid and 10 ml acetone or isopropyl alcohol
Add a drop of sulfuric acid solution and a precipitate of amphetamine salts will form
Adjust pH6
Keep it in the freezer for two hours
Then take it out and put it on a filter to dry

 

[mithyl2]

You can re-extract the basic acid of this salt that you obtained
Dissolve this salt in cold water, the ratio of water to salt is 1/1
Add 25% sodium hydroxide solution dropwise to pH12
You will notice an oily layer on top
Add the DCM solvent, mix it well, then throw it into the separating funnel and separate the DCM layers. The bottom extract it and keep it
Make a solution of 1 ml sulfuric acid and 10 ml acetone or isopropyl alcohol
Add a drop of sulfuric acid solution and a precipitate of amphetamine salts will form
Adjust pH6
Keep it in the freezer for two hours
Then take it out and put it on a filter to dry

wael ganoBut if there's no amphetamine present in the salt, there won't be any oily layer (i think this is the amphetamine free base) forming on top, right? Tuco's problem seems to be the same as mine, where we are not synthesizing amphetamine, but another unidentified compound. I have repeatedly experienced this failure with the borohydride method as well, even when I used different forms of it

 

[wael gano]

But if there's no amphetamine present in the salt, there won't be any oily layer (i think this is the amphetamine free base) forming on top, right? Tuco's problem seems to be the same as mine, where we are not synthesizing amphetamine, but another unidentified compound. I have repeatedly experienced this failure with the borohydride method as well, even when I used different forms of it

mithyl2Yes, correct
If a transparent or slightly yellowish oil layer does not form in the separating funnel, it is important to see an oil layer when extracting the base.
If you don't see this, you won't have a free amphetamine base (maybe you reacted wrongly).
There is a concern about the tin chloride process and the extraction of the oxime in ethyl acetate. When extracting the oxime in ethyl acetate does delamination occur? Can you extract the oxime in a non-polar solvent, ether or DCM?
There is an interference of inorganic salts in this synthesis

 

[wael gano]

But if there's no amphetamine present in the salt, there won't be any oily layer (i think this is the amphetamine free base) forming on top, right? Tuco's problem seems to be the same as mine, where we are not synthesizing amphetamine, but another unidentified compound. I have repeatedly experienced this failure with the borohydride method as well, even when I used different forms of it

mithyl2Borohydride is a good reducing agent
Make sure it is pure copper chloride
I suggest you react p2np with aluminum amalgam. Try it in small quantities, starting with the correct amalgam. Add p2np in two stages and control the temperature of the amalgam.
Extract the free base with isopropyl alcohol