PMK Oil Synthesys From PMK (CAS 28578-16-7 Wax Form) Large Scale

[Curiousonion]

UPDATE:

In big scale step 6 must be done in cold, is very dangerous and slow to make that step in hot.

btcboss2022Yes you are very very right. let the solution cool down after refluxing with naoh and only then add the hcl and heat it up again to 80c.

 

[Bartholomeus]

UPDATE:

In big scale step 6 must be done in cold, is very dangerous and slow to make that step in hot.

btcboss2022
Because HCL starts fuming and volcano style reaction happens?
Do you think conversion can be made in stainless steel vessel?

 

[Curiousonion]

Because HCL starts fuming and volcano style reaction happens?
Do you think conversion can be made in stainless steel vessel?

ChingShihNo hell no, hcl will eat that shit right up.

 

[Bartholomeus]

No hell no, hcl will eat that shit right up.

Curiousonion
So then only option is Big glass flasks or Glass reactor 100l for large scale conversion?
But how are then the big guys doing it? I thought in big stainless steel vessels...

 

[Curiousonion]

Glass reactors are the best option

 

[btcboss2022]

Hello,

Stainless steel with acids is impossible forget that.
You can use glass reactor or s316 reactor in the scale that you want depend on your money ;-)

 

[btcboss2022]

Now I can confirm that CAS 28578-16-7 in powder form is more pure and clean than the wax form, method is exactly the same.
Thanks,

 

[Curiousonion]

Now I can confirm that CAS 28578-16-7 in powder form is more pure and clean than the wax form, method is exactly the same.
Thanks,

btcboss2022How so, higher yield or what, how do you determine the purity?

 

[Curiousonion]

I read on another pmk thread that the guy only does bicarb washes and then vacuum distills the remaining water without doing a dcm extraction, what's your opinion on that?

Now I can confirm that CAS 28578-16-7 in powder form is more pure and clean than the wax form, method is exactly the same.
Thanks,

btcboss2022

 

[btcboss2022]

I read on another pmk thread that the guy only does bicarb washes and then vacuum distills the remaining water without doing a dcm extraction, what's your opinion on that?

CuriousonionPossible is more work than evaporate only the DCM anyway I dont understand what is the problem with the original synth that you want to change it all time hahah

 

[btcboss2022]

How so, higher yield or what, how do you determine the purity?

CuriousonionYes higher yield and purity is about colour, smell...can't determine % of course but higher than wax for sure.

 

[Curiousonion]

Possible is more work than evaporate only the DCM anyway I dont understand what is the problem with the original synth that you want to change it all time hahah

btcboss2022Ah it's because i read on the other pmk thread that uses the exact same method as you do except at the end it does bicarb washes and a water wash and no dcm extraction.
So I'm just looking at all the methods to try to understand this rxn better

 

[Curiousonion]

the picture is not pmk oil， I can supply good pmk oil

wingroupamarvelioOh wow, you can tell a chemical compound just by looking at it and here we are fools trying to figure it out by boiling points, melting points etc.

 

[btcboss2022]

the picture is not pmk oil， I can supply good pmk oil

wingroupamarvelioReally? I think I know what is happening here, it's fake PMK, we are producing fake MDMA and everybody is having fake highs possibly these people are actors contracted by the fake PMK supplier to make us continue buying his product!
I see all clear now was evident I'm very stupid to no see it before!
Thank you wingroupamarvelio I don't know how to thank you enough we are extremely lucky to have you in the forum.

 

[btcboss2022]

Here is the last batch of the fake MDMA ;-)

 

[btcboss2022]

Here is the last batch of the fake MDMA ;-)

btcboss2022From 1.25kg from PMK oil(from PMK powder form) I got 1.3kg of final stuff.

 

[Mr Good Cat]

From 1.25kg from PMK oil(from PMK powder form) I got 1.3kg of final stuff.

btcboss2022Do you mean 1.3 kg of base or hydrochloride?

 

[btcboss2022]

Do you mean 1.3 kg of base or hydrochloride?

Mr Good CatHCL

 

[Curiousonion]

what method do you use to transform the pmk oil into mdma freebase? (If you dont mind sharing) thats a fantastic yield.

 

[Bartholomeus]

Here is the last batch of the fake MDMA ;-)

btcboss2022
Thanks for update btcboss2022 - looks nice
You have any pictures when the crystals are dry? Do they become more transparent brown - or they stay dark like on this picture?
And last question, How did you calculate the ratios of other reagents (methanol, Nabh4, Methylamine, Naoh) if using 1.25kg of pmk oil?

 

[btcboss2022]

what method do you use to transform the pmk oil into mdma freebase? (If you dont mind sharing) thats a fantastic yield.

Curiousonion

http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhni37ybtt7mkbjyxn2pgllzxf2qgyd.onion/threads/methamphetamine-synthesis-from-p2p-by-nabh4-reduction-medium-scale.600/#post-9603

All details in my post of that thread.

 

[btcboss2022]

Thanks for update btcboss2022 - looks nice
You have any pictures when the crystals are dry? Do they become more transparent brown - or they stay dark like on this picture?
And last question, How did you calculate the ratios of other reagents (methanol, Nabh4, Methylamine, Naoh) if using 1.25kg of pmk oil?

ChingShihHello I will make new pics but color is more or less the same, I can do it completely transparent and crystalline but people demand this color I will never understand this but they rule.
They want "cola" they have "cola" ;-)
About ratios you can take it from my post in that thread:

http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhni37ybtt7mkbjyxn2pgllzxf2qgyd.onion/threads/methamphetamine-synthesis-from-p2p-by-nabh4-reduction-medium-scale.600/#post-9603