PMK Oil Synthesys From PMK (CAS 28578-16-7 Wax Form) Large Scale

[btcboss2022]

Hello,

Here is my last achievement make it to crystallize naturally in the molecular form of the crystal itself. More pure impossible!! ;-)
Seems handmade but trust me are naturally formed!

 

[Tweaker]

Hello,

Here is my last achievement make it to crystallize naturally in the molecular form of the crystal itself. More pure impossible!! ;-)
Seems handmade but trust me are naturally formed!

btcboss2022Very nice work. What process do you use to remove the black tar like impurity? Even on snow white crystals it appears on subsequent recrystalizations and the end product becomes quite dark.

 

[Paranoia]

Yes exactly the same.

btcboss2022Coming next in a few weeks @btcboss2022 ice sample lab test https://analisis2.energycontrol.org/ for meth purity and eniantometer R.S

 

[blackburn]

@btcboss2022 Will there be a writeup from your way of MDMA Synthesis from PMK oil (MDP2P: cas 4676-39-5)


/ Thanks

 

[btcboss2022]

@btcboss2022 Will there be a writeup from your way of MDMA Synthesis from PMK oil (MDP2P: cas 4676-39-5)


/ Thanks

SwesweI writeup about if the precursor is not in good conditions you could have a solid in the process?
In that case all processes should have it right?

 

[Paranoia]

I writeup about if the precursor is not in good conditions you could have a solid in the process?
In that case all processes should have it right?

btcboss2022Coming next @btcboss2022 lab test for ICE PURITY & ENIANTOMETER R,S come back to be updated

Energy Control

analisis2.energycontrol.org

 

[jamesdavies]

Does any one have any good alternative choices for acid for the decarb and hydrolysis?
HCl and phosphoric have just been added to the EPP regulation in my country, not possible to buy anymore without EPP licence or business and bussiness address, proof of use and full Identification.

 

[Jordan Belfort]

Does any one have any good alternative choices for acid for the decarb and hydrolysis?
HCl and phosphoric have just been added to the EPP regulation in my country, not possible to buy anymore without EPP licence or business and bussiness address, proof of use and full Identification.

jamesdaviescitric acid, diluted sulfuric acid.

 

[Mr Good Cat]

Does any one have any good alternative choices for acid for the decarb and hydrolysis?
HCl and phosphoric have just been added to the EPP regulation in my country, not possible to buy anymore without EPP licence or business and bussiness address, proof of use and full Identification.

jamesdaviesWhen I was younger, my friends involved in clandestine chemistry did as below:
1. battery electrolyte taken and put on the stove for evap. Evaporation continues till density 1.8 gr per 1.0 ml reached.
2. Some glass vessel with hose prepared, and NaCl (kitchen salt) placed inside.
3. Obtained electrolyte put in the vessel in proportions 2 ml per 1 gr of salt.
4. Vessel closed. HCl gas obtained from hose.

 

[syntheticdrugs]

When I was younger, my friends involved in clandestine chemistry did as below:
1. battery electrolyte taken and put on the stove for evap. Evaporation continues till density 1.8 gr per 1.0 ml reached.
2. Some glass vessel with hose prepared, and NaCl (kitchen salt) placed inside.
3. Obtained electrolyte put in the vessel in proportions 2 ml per 1 gr of salt.
4. Vessel closed. HCl gas obtained from hose.

Mr Good Cat@G.Patton Hello, I remember there is a similar article, but I can’t find it

 

[FredDurst]

I followed this method exactly but with the powder form of the 28578-16-7

I have great yields - 76% - after the main reactions with Na0H and then HCL

But when I carry out the Bicarb wash - in exactly the same way as above - I loose a massive amount of product in the water

Even when I use twice the amount of DCM recommended I cannot seperate the product from the Bicarb water

Does anyone else have this problem with the powder form of 28578-16-7?

This did not happen with the wax form I had before

 

[btcboss2022]

I followed this method exactly but with the powder form of the 28578-16-7

I have great yields - 76% - after the main reactions with Na0H and then HCL

But when I carry out the Bicarb wash - in exactly the same way as above - I loose a massive amount of product in the water

Even when I use twice the amount of DCM recommended I cannot seperate the product from the Bicarb water

Does anyone else have this problem with the powder form of 28578-16-7?

This did not happen with the wax form I had before

FredDurstEmulsions could be fixed with a saturated solution of Nacl

 

[The FALCON]

Hello,

After check and test the methods posted in the thread http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhn...-methyl-pmk-glycidate-conversion-to-pmk.2013/ I decided the post the best method for me:

1. Put 47,5 liters of H2O in the reactor and add 2,5kg of sodium bicarbonate, stirring until complete dissolution, take out the mixture and keep it.
2. Put in the reactor 7L of H2O
3. Add while stirring 1,2kg of sodium hydroxide
4. While the H2O and the sodium hydroxide are mixing and getting temp put 5kG of wax PMK to melt by low heat.
5. When PMK is melted add it to the reactor and put the mixture at 80 °C reflux during 1 hour stirring.
6. Add 3,25kg of HCL 37% in small portions, once all added keep the mixture at 80 °C reflux during 1 hour stirring.
7. Stop stirring and put the mixture at 25 °C.
8. Discard the water top layer.
9. Put again in the reactor the oil top layer.
10. Add the H2O and sodium bicarbonate mixture, stirring 2-3 minutes.
11. Add 10 liters of DCM (from freezer preferably).
12. Let it get separated around 10-15 min.
13. Evaporate DCM from the bottom layer.

PMK oil (MDP2P; cas 4676-39-5) yield is 3,72kg.

btcboss2022Dcm is di chloro methane ?

 

[btcboss2022]

Dcm is di chloro methane ?

The FALCONYes

 

[The FALCON]

Hello,

After check and test the methods posted in the thread http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhn...-methyl-pmk-glycidate-conversion-to-pmk.2013/ I decided the post the best method for me:

1. Put 47,5 liters of H2O in the reactor and add 2,5kg of sodium bicarbonate, stirring until complete dissolution, take out the mixture and keep it.
2. Put in the reactor 7L of H2O
3. Add while stirring 1,2kg of sodium hydroxide
4. While the H2O and the sodium hydroxide are mixing and getting temp put 5kG of wax PMK to melt by low heat.
5. When PMK is melted add it to the reactor and put the mixture at 80 °C reflux during 1 hour stirring.
6. Add 3,25kg of HCL 37% in small portions, once all added keep the mixture at 80 °C reflux during 1 hour stirring.
7. Stop stirring and put the mixture at 25 °C.
8. Discard the water top layer.
9. Put again in the reactor the oil top layer.
10. Add the H2O and sodium bicarbonate mixture, stirring 2-3 minutes.
11. Add 10 liters of DCM (from freezer preferably).
12. Let it get separated around 10-15 min.
13. Evaporate DCM from the bottom layer.

PMK oil (MDP2P; cas 4676-39-5) yield is 3,72kg.

btcboss2022Dcm is important?

 

[btcboss2022]

Dcm is important?

The FALCONIs a very effective organic solvent, but you can use ether, toluene....

 

[craris100]

Great post sir, i just read all comments and I have 2 questions.

Its a mandatory to use d H2O or i can use tap H2O? Its a problem for me to buy thounsands littlers of d H2O in tanks. I know the finally product not gonna be as clean as with d H2O.

I dont understand the method for cleaning the coke MDMA, in my country people prefer champagne color or white color. Could you send me the exactly method for cleaning the impurities of Coke MDMA?

Thank you.

 

[btcboss2022]

Great post sir, i just read all comments and I have 2 questions.

Its a mandatory to use d H2O or i can use tap H2O? Its a problem for me to buy thounsands littlers of d H2O in tanks. I know the finally product not gonna be as clean as with d H2O.

I dont understand the method for cleaning the coke MDMA, in my country people prefer champagne color or white color. Could you send me the exactly method for cleaning the impurities of Coke MDMA?

Thank you.

craris100You can use H2O knowing the difference of the final result.
What method for cleaning do you mean?Freeze acetone could be enough.

 

[craris100]

You can use H2O knowing the difference of the final result.
What method for cleaning do you mean?Freeze acetone could be enough.

btcboss2022Only cleaning the coke MDMA with freeze acetone its possible to change the coke color to champagne or white color you mean?

 

[btcboss2022]

Only cleaning the coke MDMA with freeze acetone its possible to change the coke color to champagne or white color you mean?

craris100Yes

 

[btcboss2022]

Only cleaning the coke MDMA with freeze acetone its possible to change the coke color to champagne or white color you mean?

craris100Anyway if you make an acid base washing to the freebase before cristallizing shouldnt has cola color

 

[craris100]

Anyway if you make an acid base washing to the freebase before cristallizing shouldnt has cola color

btcboss2022Awesome information, thank you so much Sir.

 

[Cruela83]

Hello
Does anyone know what is the pH of the mdp2p?

 

[btcboss2022]

Hello
Does anyone know what is the pH of the mdp2p?

nol6

 

[RotterdamNL]

hey. Btcboss2023 you are really boss this synth.
Tell me about convert with NaOh and citric Acid? Its possible or this Acid have to low ,,power,, and must be Hcl?